Gas drilling to resume in town

[johnmaynor]

Roger that on the new meeting schedule.
Right in front of the council meeting.
Should be fun.

[admin]

Actually, one of the P & Z board members had to take his wife to the hospital due to a medical emergency...

That's not really an excuse is it? If *one* member is unable to addend, what happened to all the other members?

How many of the members make a quorum? How many were not there?

Here is a perspective on the issue from former DO Mayor and Town Council member Dick Cook: http://www.crosstimbersgazette.com/opin ... e-oak.html

[Uther]

Here is a perspective on the issue from former DO Mayor and Town Council member Dick Cook: http://www.crosstimbersgazette.com/opin ... e-oak.html

Yes well, no fine. (old nonsensical saying.)

In a small town, where the P&Z members are elected/appointed from that town, since all applications are from that town regarding activities in that town, how can you ever really have a conflict of interest? Unless it is your own application on your own property, I don't think this is a valid excuse. Or are we to believe that only people who don't have gas leases are eligible to vote on an issue affecting those with gas leases?

This would mean (according to the Williams meeting), that only people living east of Simmonds road in Double Oak can vote on an issue affecting those people living west of Simmonds road? Hypothetically, if all gas leases were signed, would we then have to recruit citizens from Lantana or Flower Mound to make the call for Double Oak?

[admin]

This just in...


JOINT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL
PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD AT CROSSROADS BIBLE CHURCH
AUGUST 16, 2010
6:00 PM

On Monday, August 16, 2010 at 6:00 p.m. the Planning and Zoning Commission
and the Town Council of the Town of Double Oak, Texas, will hold a joint public
hearing at the Crossroads Bible Church located at 8101 FM 407, Double Oak,
TX,* to consider and act upon the request from G & A Consultants, Inc.
representing Robert G. Meece and Bob Troutt to rezone property from
Agricultural-2 to Specific Use Permit (SUP) zoning, to allow the drilling of 22 gas
wells and the production of natural gas on the property.

This joint public hearing is an open meeting and you are encouraged to attend. If
you are unable to attend and wish to register an opinion (for or against granting
this request), you may either send a letter to the Planning and Zoning
Commission and/or the Town Council, Town Hall, 320 Waketon Road, Double
Oak, TX 75077, fax your comments to (972) 539-9613 or call Town Hall during
regular business hours from 9:00 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. on Monday and 9:00 a.m. to
4:00 p.m. Tuesday through Friday. Should you have any questions, please feel
free to call Town Hall at (972) 539-9464.

* The Planning and Zoning Commission and regular Town Council
meeting are being relocated from Double Oak Town Hall to the
Crossroads Bible Church to accommodate a larger audience. Please
make note of the change of location. Double Oak appreciates the
willingness of Crossroads Bible Church to share their facilities.

Charlotte Allen
Town Secretary

[Uther]

Nice, real nice. Now they found a method to limit the time for public input. These guys are nothing if not clever.

[gulfcad]

I am totally against them putting the site next to Lantana. We already have enough wells around us. If the site goes in and there are any issues with it, you can watch your home values go down just like they did in Dish, TX.

Admin: I would like to see a poll on what the resident's of Lantana think about this.

[Uther]

I am totally against them putting the site next to Lantana. We already have enough wells around us. If the site goes in and there are any issues with it, you can watch your home values go down just like they did in Dish, TX.

Admin: I would like to see a poll on what the resident's of Lantana think about this.

This well is substantially farther from Lantana than many of the other wells sucking the oil and gas out from under Lantana. Why don't you object to those wells and leave Double Oak out of it?

[admin]

Admin: I would like to see a poll on what the resident's of Lantana think about this.

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[evblazer]

I am totally against them putting the site next to Lantana. We already have enough wells around us. If the site goes in and there are any issues with it, you can watch your home values go down just like they did in Dish, TX.

Admin: I would like to see a poll on what the resident's of Lantana think about this.

Why are you convinced if all the other wells around you are fine that these wells will turn us into Dish, TX?

No I don't have mineral rights so I have nothing to gain by those facilities being there as far as I know.

[weim_09]

I recommend watching "Gasland" ......

[evblazer]

I recommend watching "Gasland" ......

Should I watch it before or after reading the rebuttals such as
http://www.energyindepth.org/2010/06/debunking-gasland/
or this myth/truth site
http://nwpoa.club.officelive.com/Gasland.aspx

[weim_09]

Should I watch it before or after reading the rebuttals such as
http://www.energyindepth.org/2010/06/debunking-gasland/
or this myth/truth site
http://nwpoa.club.officelive.com/Gasland.aspx

up to you...Those links don't really surprise me... I'm sure I can find rebuttals to your rebuttals on the internet too.

but, ....why take a chance?

[Uther]

I'm sure I can find rebuttals to your rebuttals on the internet too.

but, ....why take a chance?

This "excessive caution" I find bizarre.

Have you seen the devastating impact of aircraft failures? We have a huge history of well-documented mistakes, poor maintenance, pilot error and a host of other causes that leadt to catastrophic accidents. SO using your reasoning, why take a chance and let's not fly at all?

Choose any industry - manufacturing, mining, whatever and there are documented failures, pollution accidents and so forth. "Why take a chance?"

Automobiles, accidents, driver error, manufacturer recalls, the recent Toyota, the infamous Ford Exploder - The Edsel, but for some bizarre reason we still "take a chance" every day.

Smoking is probably the weirdest. There is no singe benefit that accrues from smoking, the negative impacts and healthcare costs are well-documented, yet we still do it.

Do you know how many oil wells there are worldwide? What do you suppose the accident rate is? Bring it close to home. How many oil and gas wells are in Texas? How many clearly documented, unremediated instances of pollution or impacts to health are there? So seriously, should we just shut the entire industry down rather than "take a chance?"

"Stuff happens" - Forrest Gump.

[weim_09]

Well - I try to take my chances when it makes sense. So - using your
example, if I felt uncomfortable flying a certain airline - I would not.
Statistically speaking, flying on an airplane is still safer than most
other means of transportation. This appears not to be the case when it
comes to gas well drilling. The agencies that are supposed to control or
patrol the gas companies to ensure that greed does not overcome
responsibility for life ( for other people - I am guessing right now that
most gas company executives don't live near a well) had their hands tied by
Dick Cheney (oh yeah - no personal agenda there!). Dish, TX is real. You
can chose to ignore it or take the time to at least understand it. The
mayor of Dish had nothing to gain by talking to us. He took time out of his
personal life to meet with us and to warn us not to make the same mistakes
that were made in Dish. All I am trying to say is, ask questions, ask for
proof, ask for information and consider the source. Of course, the gas
companies will say all is fine - but this is our lives we are talking
about. Let's err on the side of caution and investigate independently. This
is not about who is right and who is wrong. It's about our children and
grandchildren - our future. It would make sense to ensure we have the right
information to make the best decision. Money is not everything. Actually -
it's precious little once your and your family's health has been impacted.

[Pipeline]

Wiem,

You guessed wrong. The CEO of Exxon (Tillerson) just purchased The old Star Gate Horse ranch, right across from Lantana for his wife. They acquired no mineral rights, but ensured that former US congressman Richard Armey's wells across the fence would be at least 400 feet away. I bet he is really terrified of drilling. Stop clenching.