Health-Care Myths

[Common Sense Al]

Increases government spending but will reduce the deficit. I can also read Al, but they don't explain how that happens....

Easy... by reducing gov't spending & waste in other areas and increasing efficiencies and revenue. The GOP likes to ignore those things because it's not helpful to their agenda. Any reasonable person would look at the net effect.

[Richard]

Easy... by reducing gov't spending & waste in other areas and increasing efficiencies and revenue.

Welcome to Utopia! That Doesn't happen. If it does, it is very short lived. The bigger government gets, the more wasteful it gets. History shows this. Anybody who thinks otherwise is in dreamland.

[Common Sense Al]

Anybody who thinks otherwise is in dreamland.

Anyone who thinks the US healthcare system can be improved without gov't is also living in a dreamland. The history of healthcare systems in this country and in other developed countries shows this.

[Richard]

Easy... by reducing gov't spending & waste in other areas and increasing efficiencies and revenue.

Let's stay on this point for a minute. Do you believe what you said above will happen?

[Pipeline]

Anybody who thinks otherwise is in dreamland.

Anyone who thinks the US healthcare system can be improved without gov't is also living in a dreamland. The history of healthcare systems in this country and in other developed countries shows this.

Easy... by reducing gov't spending & waste in other areas and increasing efficiencies and revenue.

Let's stay on this point for a minute. Do you believe what you said above will happen?

Reducing guvment spending and waste?

Increasing efficiencies and revenues, I believe might mean higher taxes. But taxes in " Al world", the sky is the limit.

[Common Sense Al]

Easy... by reducing gov't spending & waste in other areas and increasing efficiencies and revenue.

Let's stay on this point for a minute. Do you believe what you said above will happen?

Yes and no... in some cases yes, in others no. Private industry isn't perfect and neither is the gov't... but when it comes to healthcare, it's hard to screw things up any more than the private system (being the most private in the world) has already screwed things up. Prices are the highest in the world (with no better results overall) and the bureaucracy is the worst... for every 1 hour of actual healthcare, there is about 30 minutes of paperwork, if I recall correctly... and no, that's not all the gov'ts fault, unless you want to blame the gov't for not stopping it and demanding something less wasteful. You can thank the private insurance companies for it and the hospitals that have to nickel and dime people on everything to try to get the most from the insurance companies (or whoever else is paying).

Sorry, but unfortunately there is no better solution... if one becomes available then I would support it.

[sandy brake]

Wow. 79 pages of spinning wheels. Yawn.

[JKTex]

Wow. 79 pages of spinning wheels. Yawn.

Well, it is a thread about myths.......and Al's keeping it alive.

[falcon999]

i read a new one today, that all doctors will be required to follow us preventative task force guidelines and if you don't they will take money away from what doctors are paid.

One of the tests is a Psa, used for screening for prostate cancer. Not that great of a test, but still used. So if you decide with your doctor that you want it, if the doctors orders it, #1 your insurance will not pay for it, and #2 if you pay for it yourself, you impact all of the other payments that your doctor receives from all of the other patients.

If you don't get the test and requested it, but they were following the rules and then you get cancer. Can you still sue your doctor because you told him to do it, but he was following the rules. Well there wasn't any lawsuit reform so of course the doctor will get sued for that.

Also on the us preventative task force, there aren't specialist determining what is needed, ie no urologists were involved in deciding how prostate cancer screening was done.

[YellowRose]

Anybody remember the movie "Logan's Run?"

[Common Sense Al]

i read a new one today, that all doctors will be required to follow us preventative task force guidelines and if you don't they will take money away from what doctors are paid.

I'm betting your source for this "new one" is not very reliable, but feel free to share a link if you've got one. I haven't heard it either, but I know people like to make stuff up, as well as distort, misinterpret, & outright lie.

[Pipeline]

Anybody remember the movie "Logan's Run?"

I loved that movie.
I bet Al would not have followed Logan, but would fly up into the sky when it was his turn, because the Gov'ment said so.

[FM7]

Al: anything said in favor of what he believes = true, anything else = false or GOP propaganda

[Common Sense Al]

Al: anything said in favor of what he believes = true, anything else = false or GOP propaganda

Pretty much true, but probably not because of the reason you think.

[Hog Caller]

Al: anything said in favor of what he believes = true, anything else = false or GOP propaganda

Pretty much true, but probably not because of the reason you think.

No one is so blind as he who will not see.