delila wrote:I believe that Josh only cares that one person was saved. Maybe they were but at what expense? He truly only cares about the outcome of the sermon, which I couldn't give a rats ass about! I care about the welfare of the poor animals that were put on display for your entertainment purpose only.
Somebody before me said it correctly, MEGA church= MEGA $$$$$$. Who cares at what expense.
I think this church is turning into a bigger joke than it is a church. What an embarrassment to the community.
skiing1974 wrote:Did "FC" do something illegal here?
Pipeline wrote:I really don't understand a problem here. A probable local zoo lion is brought in for a religious ceremony to relay a message. The lion gets 3 squares a day and eats more meat then I do. So he's in a cage. So cruel. Big deal. He has probably been in a cage or a pen since he was a kitty kat. Is that cruel? Don't think so. Delila, have you ever had to go out and hunt food for your family so they could eat, that day, like a lion has to? didn't think so.
15 years ago my parents would buy tickets to the Ringling circus in Dallas every year, before that event grew tiresome, for the family. From the parking lot to the arena we would be hassled by PITA and other animal knuckleheads, with cruelty brochures and threats of violence to us. Really annoying.
So it was a church, you get riled. Worry about starving children instead of a fat lion. He's just a big Rug Steak.
JKTex wrote:Church is business. Religion is business. Business is $$$. Most western so called Christians are hypocrites that use church and religion as a social platform and to improve their image/hide what they think others would condemn.
heartsong wrote:If god word is not impactful enough and your minister/leader has to resort to tactics to prove a point that I can see begin to see has anything to do with Easter and Christ rising from the dead. If being show and entertaining is the only way your church can bring people in than you are not following Christ because that is the opposite of what he was about.
eatapper wrote:I originally posted this photo and caption and would like to clarify a few issues, particularly in response to Josh:
Animals that are used for entertainment purposes are very troubling for animal lovers/activists because they typically live the most unnatural, abusive lives of all animals kept in captivity. They often live in horrible conditions, are abused or drugged to perform, never get any exercise or anything close to a natural life. The shipping (I've heard this lion was shipped from California), being put in front of thousands of people, performing, etc. is very stressful for the animal and they just don't get much relief. When entertainers are done with these animals they usually just euthanize them, often in very inhumane ways. When they sometimes release them to rescue groups the animals are so unnatural and emotionally off balance, it's really disturbing to see. The USDA is in charge of regulating this industry, but you as you can imagine, are very short staffed and this is usually low priority unless someone is being egregiously abusive.
I am a Christian, I saw the sermon and understand the symbolization often used of the lion and the lamb. While this certainly was the most dramatic way this story could be told, I honestly think that the message was lost in the sensationalism of having the live animals there, watching the lamb cry, etc. My 10 year old nephew attended the service and when I asked what it was about all he could remember was the animals. As a Christian I think this is sad because Easter is the most important and holiest lesson, especially for kids who think it's about a bunny.
I am no FC hater; I was a member of the church for about 5 years. We ultimately decided that it was no longer a good fit for our family, but I certainly harbored no ill will towards the church. As a matter of fact, when I was first told that Ed was going to have a lion there, I thought it couldn't be true. I will tell you that had this happened when we were members and tithing faithfully I would have been really upset that our hard earned money was being used to purchase "props" like these.
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