Common Sense Al wrote:NASA: Global warming caused mostly by humans
It finds, like other major scientific research, that greenhouse gases generated by human activities -- not changes in solar activity -- are the primary cause of global warming.
I guess NASA must be full of flaky liberal scientists, because man-made global warming couldn't possibly be real, right josh?
I'm glad you resurrected this post - good timing since it seems that more and more scientists are coming out against the MMGW hysteria.
Some clarity first: nobody denies that humans generate gases. I believe it is somewhere around 1st grade that we learn that humans generate gas that fuels plants and plants release oxygen. So if you are setting up a strawman to paint GOPers as people who deny that humans release gas then you can stop right now. Nobody is falling for that. If your claim is that humans are responsible for the micro heating of the earth coming out of the ice age then that evidence is under massive attack. I posted a link to a reference to thousands of scientists who refute that notion. You turned around and said that that wasnt enough scientists - proving once again you are not looking for an even debate - only for a forum by which you can dish out your propoganda. When you give one shred of evidence that are you open to fact based evidence supporting an opposite view I will engage you again. Until then, feel free to muck up this forum with your close minded hysteria.
The sky is falling...the sky is falling...
Here is something to chew on. Recent WSJ letter from 16 scientists. Knowing you, 16 is not nearly enough and you will dismiss their claims out of hand. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 21366.html
In case you cannot access, here are a few paragraphs:
In September, Nobel Prize-winning physicist Ivar Giaever, a supporter of President Obama in the last election, publicly resigned from the American Physical Society (APS) with a letter that begins: "I did not renew [my membership] because I cannot live with the [APS policy] statement: 'The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth's physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now.' In the APS it is OK to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible?"
In spite of a multidecade international campaign to enforce the message that increasing amounts of the "pollutant" carbon dioxide will destroy civilization, large numbers of scientists, many very prominent, share the opinions of Dr. Giaever. And the number of scientific "heretics" is growing with each passing year. The reason is a collection of stubborn scientific facts.
Perhaps the most inconvenient fact is the lack of global warming for well over 10 years now. This is known to the warming establishment, as one can see from the 2009 "Climategate" email of climate scientist Kevin Trenberth: "The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't." But the warming is only missing if one believes computer models where so-called feedbacks involving water vapor and clouds greatly amplify the small effect of CO2.
Although the number of publicly dissenting scientists is growing, many young scientists furtively say that while they also have serious doubts about the global-warming message, they are afraid to speak up for fear of not being promoted—or worse
. They have good reason to worry. In 2003, Dr. Chris de Freitas, the editor of the journal Climate Research, dared to publish a peer-reviewed article with the politically incorrect (but factually correct) conclusion that the recent warming is not unusual in the context of climate changes over the past thousand years. The international warming establishment quickly mounted a determined campaign to have Dr. de Freitas removed from his editorial job and fired from his university position
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