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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby admin » Tue May 17, 2011 11:36 pm

CopperCanyonResident wrote:Pray tell, to what do you refer, sir?


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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby coppercanyon33 » Tue May 17, 2011 11:42 pm

CopperCanyonResident wrote:Ein Volk, Ein Bund, Ein Schweinehund!

Emigration is looking pretty good right now.

We have the bastard brat of a Kenyan Communist in the White House, and a hand picked criminal miscreant in the Town Hall.

We have truly lost our way in the USA. May God have mercy on us.


CopperCanyonResident your comments regarding the President of our country are disappointing. While I am the **farthest thing** from a Barrack supporter I think the whole birther argument is B.S. For crying out loud it's not going to change at this point so just pray we can kick him out in the next election!

As far as the "hand-picked criminal..." well, it's time for you to face it; your guy lost! He's was filled with self-righteous anger, and (in my opinion), a strong desire to mislead the town's residents. It just goes to show you that the people in this town won't put up with his type of campaigning - BRAVO Copper Canyon for shutting his negative B.S. down hard! (Don't believe me? ** He lost his seat against all the mudslinging your candidate (and others) could toss,** including a posting of his record (which was then distorted by the person posting it when they inserted their commentary) on this forum!! So in my book the town had to be pretty hacked at your candidate(s) to lose against a so called "criminal"...think about it...) Personally, I very happy to hear that Brasberger lost! He does not represent the values of this town and never will as long as he keeps to his own agenda (which he always has)! In my opinion, he doesn't give one hoot about what the residents want, he selfishly cares only for what HE wants. The only reason he had followers is because they thought his anger represented their frustration with the town - never realizing that he only promoted his agenda. I flat don't understand how you cannot see that just as plain as day.

Anyway, the election is over. If you want the Council to hear you out then speak at the public forum which precedes every Town Council Meeting. Or better yet, run for Council and see just how much "fun" it is for people to hack your reputation to shreds. Come on, stand by your words and do something about it - run in the next election vs. just sitting here on the forums licking your wounds and making snarky comments about people that did more than sit and editorialize!
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby Common Sense Al » Wed May 18, 2011 9:22 am

admin wrote:http://www.crosstimbersgazette.com/local-news/1576-unlikely-candidate-takes-mayor-spot.html


Interesting... but not sure how he "shocked the town of Argyle" by winning when 50%+ voted for him. :wink:
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby JKTex » Wed May 18, 2011 11:42 am

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admin wrote:http://www.crosstimbersgazette.com/local-news/1576-unlikely-candidate-takes-mayor-spot.html


Interesting... but not sure how he "shocked the town of Argyle" by winning when 50%+ voted for him. :wink:


The shock was that 50% + of the town voted for him. Likely in part that he was able to keep his criminal record under wraps apparently until almost the last minute.

I'm wondering how many people are shocked at themselves or if they really did dislike Landrum that much. I don't know anything about him or Argyle politics although I do have an inside connection, but it's from a personal perspective. Although I'm curious now. :lol:
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby CopperCanyonResident » Wed May 18, 2011 9:09 pm

Just to be clear, I never made reference to the place of the President's birth, but rather pointed out the questionable nature of his origins. There was a time in our country that folks would look at such mean origins and never consider such a person for public office.

Barack Sr. was causing quite a stir with his university dons who could not quite ascertain exactly how many wives the fellow had. His character was such that he had no problem casting his seed wide and far, and Miss Dunham was an all too willing slattern for his advances. I cannot see how having someone of such parentage in the White House is something simply to accept. Our president's base origins are disgusting - not my hostile opposition to him being in office.

His friends and associates chosen during his adult life are a shocking crew of deviants as well, who would like nothing better than to turn this country upside down - or as our president worded it during his campaign, to "fundamentally transform America." Have you ever thought critically what that really means?

By the way, the wise men at PIMCO announced recently that they reckon 70% of US Treasuries are being bought by the Fed. Think about that for a minute - the Fed is printing dollars out of thin air to buy US Debt. Where will that lead? Have you noticed how much M1 money supply has grown in recent months? There is a reason food prices and gasoline prices are on an updward trend.

If the US Dollar collapses and / or ceases to be the world reserve currency (think of all that float overseas coming home to roost!), how would that help our president fundamentally transform America? Think man!

In the meantime, my tax bill for local government goes up and up and up. That would not be so bad, but on top of having my money taken from me in ever increasing amounts, the government is in my face more and more. I moved here because the government was cheap and unobtrusive. That is no longer the case. That is why am angry. I could run for town council, but what is the point? The mayor hand picks her candidates and uses her town telephone directory (which is supposed to have been for the town) to push her candidates far and wide, while using the bully pulpit provided by the CTG to promote her candidate even further. What is the point of running? She has the whole thing sewn up nice and tight. It is truly a sight to behold. Chavez down in Venezuela ought to come up here to take a few lessons. He could learn a thing or two about how to dominate a town.

Speak at the forum? Again, what is the point? They could not care in the least. The mayor and council care only about their agenda.

Before you and the fellow posters cite the tired old "he was elected by the people, it is over, get used to it" stuff, please consider the Nazis rose to power through the democratic process. America has always been open to dissent and I hope you do not feel that is no longer the case - regardless of how an election turns out.

Please do try to see things from my point of view. You may not agree with what I write or the tone of my writing, but please take into account my views expressed above before judging me too harshly.

Please also read as much as you can about the current government, where our economy is headed, etc. I would also recommend Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. There are a lot of parallels with Rome's demise and our situation.

Until you do, enjoy the Bread and Circuses.
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby Pipeline » Thu May 19, 2011 6:34 pm

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admin wrote:http://www.crosstimbersgazette.com/local-news/1576-unlikely-candidate-takes-mayor-spot.html


Interesting... but not sure how he "shocked the town of Argyle" by winning when 50%+ voted for him. :wink:

No one was truly "shocked". When 90% of the voters seem "dumb as a bucket of hammers", in national and local elections that is what is shocking. Once again "the herd mentality". Moooo!
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby Pipeline » Thu May 19, 2011 6:53 pm

coppercanyon33 wrote: He does not represent the values of this town and never will as long as he keeps to his own agenda (which he always has)! In my opinion, he doesn't give one hoot about what the residents want, he selfishly cares only for what HE wants.


Granted CC33, the election is over, and quite an embarrassment it was (for most of the voters), but then voter education in CC is not it's forte , for "the masses". But please elaborate on "his own agenda", "what the residents want", and what did he "selfishly want"? We are listening, O' ye of such great "insider knowledge".
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby Pipeline » Thu May 19, 2011 8:38 pm

Tiff wrote:Where's Copper Canyon?

That still makes my sides split with laughter.
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby CopperCanyonResident » Thu May 19, 2011 10:20 pm

Good point, Pipeline. What did CC33 mean by Brasberger's selfish interest? Brasberger is angry for the same reason I am angry: taxes go up, and local govt is in your face more and more. It really gets tiresome after a while.

I wrote it once, and I'll write it again - the only reason Brasberger, Sommers, and Linder ran was that they were really irritated by the direction our town was going in (higher taxes, more govt in your face).

That is it - beyond that there is no agenda for these guys. About 40% of folks are fed up with the direction in which our town is headed. About 40% blindly follow their leaders. Roughly 20% have their heads firmly lodged in the lower part of their alimentary canal.
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby admin » Thu May 19, 2011 10:24 pm

CopperCanyonResident wrote:Good point, Pipeline. What did CC33 mean by Brasberger's selfish interest? Brasberger is angry for the same reason I am angry: taxes go up, and local govt is in your face more and more. It really gets tiresome after a while.

I wrote it once, and I'll write it again - the only reason Brasberger, Sommers, and Linder ran was that they were really irritated by the direction our town was going in (higher taxes, more govt in your face).

That is it - beyond that there is no agenda for these guys. About 40% of folks are fed up with the direction in which our town is headed. About 40% blindly follow their leaders. Roughly 20% have their heads firmly lodged in the lower part of their alimentary canal.


If Brasberger, Sommers, and Linder really are concerned, then I hope they will get more involved and start attending meetings so they will have some experience and familiarity with local government if they decide to run again in the future.
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby JKTex » Thu May 19, 2011 10:49 pm

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CopperCanyonResident wrote:Good point, Pipeline. What did CC33 mean by Brasberger's selfish interest? Brasberger is angry for the same reason I am angry: taxes go up, and local govt is in your face more and more. It really gets tiresome after a while.

I wrote it once, and I'll write it again - the only reason Brasberger, Sommers, and Linder ran was that they were really irritated by the direction our town was going in (higher taxes, more govt in your face).

That is it - beyond that there is no agenda for these guys. About 40% of folks are fed up with the direction in which our town is headed. About 40% blindly follow their leaders. Roughly 20% have their heads firmly lodged in the lower part of their alimentary canal.


If Brasberger, Sommers, and Linder really are concerned, then I hope they will get more involved and start attending meetings so they will have some experience and familiarity with local government if they decide to run again in the future.



Either that or just run for Mayor. I hear that works pretty well, as shown in Argyle. :lol:
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby CopperCanyonResident » Thu May 19, 2011 11:07 pm

Admin wrote:If Brasberger, Sommers, and Linder really are concerned, then I hope they will get more involved and start attending meetings so they will have some experience and familiarity with local government if they decide to run again in the future.


Define "more involved."

I would remind you that during the debate (the free and fair one, not the sham put on by the mayor herself with a political friend as moderator), Brasberger pointed out that he expressed interest in being on a committee but was rebuffed. It was only after the three (especially Brasberger and Sommers) were involved in Town Council meetings that their dissatisfaction grew.

You imply they are not involved enough to warrant a say in local government. That is a specious argument I would like to put to rest now.

How many of the current Representatives in the US House sat in the House gallery, dutifully listening to the debate ad nauseum before being elected to office? Who asked them about their participation in the US House of Representatives gallery or C-Span during their election, implying such action was a prerequisite for holding a US House seat?

Do you see the analogy? Your argument falls apart on close examination. Can we please stop regugitating that tripe?
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby JKTex » Fri May 20, 2011 2:30 pm

CopperCanyonResident wrote:Do you see the analogy? Your argument falls apart on close examination. Can we please stop regugitating that tripe?


I hear tripe is mighty good with some grits and read eye gravy.

IN small town politics, it's pretty important for those who want to represent the town folk, to understand the town and at least show an interest and show up with other small town folk so they can be better in touch. Necessary? Some would say yes, if they want to be taken seriously and be effective. Some would say some folks wouldn't need to and could still be effective. I think it just helps so people know you care about the town and aren't just pissed off. Being pissed off is one thing, working with others to make things better is another; and usually works best when you're not pissed off. You need to be able to get along.

And I have no dog in this hunt, and I don't know any of them so my opinion is in general.....although seems to be applicable in a few small towns around here. :)
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby Pipeline » Fri May 20, 2011 3:04 pm

JKTex wrote:IN small town politics, it's pretty important for those who want to represent the town folk, to understand the town and at least show an interest and show up with other small town folk so they can be better in touch. Necessary? Some would say yes, if they want to be taken seriously and be effective. Some would say some folks wouldn't need to and could still be effective. I think it just helps so people know you care about the town and aren't just pissed off. Being pissed off is one thing, working with others to make things better is another; and usually works best when you're not pissed off. You need to be able to get along.

Although CCres can tend to be "a little over the top", with his passion, he is not incorrect in how "committees" are selected and chosen in that "fair berg". You kiss Mayor butt or your loaded with cash, you help shape town policy. You don't have or do either, hit the door. Your opinion is neither wanted nor desired. As she has bragged many times before about the council "full of international travelers", well, if your not, you need not apply. FM, close race. B'ville, return to status quo, not so bad. Argyle,no prob. CC, the voting majority deserve what they get. Your wallet in CC can run, but it cannot hide. But, one day, cooler heads will prevail.
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Re: "Just the Facts" - Meaning the truth vs. distorted snipp

Postby CopperCanyonResident » Fri May 20, 2011 10:18 pm

Thanks Pipeline - I appreciate it. I know my rants are over the top, but my feelings are genuine. I am really glad someone sees the truth of what goes on in this weird little town.

It was not that way before "She Who Must Be Obeyed" became mayor. This place was great before she became mayor.

I think I have made folks suffer through enough of my rants. I think I am gonna give it a rest for a while. If the mayor starts up her goose-stepping ways again, I'll be back - with a vengeance!

Until then, thanks for your understanding and patience with me.
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