josh wrote:You didnt read a single word he said did you?
Yeah, I read it.
josh wrote:You keep going back to the same old thing over and over again (others do it better, cheaper, etc). How many horror stories from people in the English and Canadian systems do you have to read to convince you?
You can find horror stories for anything... but I'll bet you can find many more US horror stories!
josh wrote:Did you read the "myths" posted in the opening post? Those seem to address pretty much all of the healthcare "monsters" you have been talking about. No response to those?
I read it, but didn't delve deep into it. I think there's some truth in them, but if you think those "myths" mean that the US healthcare system is fine, then you must be living in the clouds.
josh wrote:The other thing that you and others are confusing is insurance vs health care. They are not the same thing. As the Rep points out, it doesnt do you much good to have full medical coverage when you cant find a doctor to treat you...or if you can find one, you have to wait 6 months to be seen.
Which is more reason why we need to fix the system... so more people will want to be doctors. If the private system was so great, then why aren't we seeing an overflow of doctors???? Instead we are supposedly seeing declines. Remember, we are still under the "private system" as we have been for decades and it's still getting worse. If it was so great, we wouldn't be in the "crap" we are now and there would be an abundance of doctors and specialists... but, there's not.
josh wrote:If the private insurance companies go out of business and everyone is completely covered by the govt, how do you imagine the govt pays for such a plan? Spare me the myth about how digital medical records will save the day (and the dollar). The only way that works is to drastically raise taxes or significantly ration health care.
Yes, taxes, but the net effect of a good, efficient healthcare system would be positive to people's bottom lines, as well as their health. And as I explained before, "rationing" is a scare tactic. We already ration care... many don't get it due to various reasons... they are "rationed" out of the system. It's a myth to think that there is no rationing already. There can only be no rationing when there is much more supply than demand, and obviously that's not the case as there is much more demand than supply. People can't get care because they don't have the $$$. And those that do get care are often ripped-off.
josh wrote:Again - read the opening article. Maybe you have good responses to those issues raised. Just dont keep repeating the same "myths" over and over again hoping that eventually they will become facts.
The fact is the system is still broken. That's not a myth.