Well, you have to remember that an aspirin will cost $12 because of the services and a ton of related costs. Think of it like oil for your car. I buy synthetic oil for less than $20, and change it myself. But if I go to Celebrity in FM, that same synthetic oil change will cost me over $90.esemerson wrote:something needs to be done. Greedy corporations making health-care decisions is no more ideal than the govt doing it.
The problem starts with some jackass deciding to charge $12 for a Tylenol.
Fred wrote:Having worked in a hospital from an I.T. perspective, and seeing the trail of costs within software, I am surprised an aspirin in a hospital only cost $12.
Al wrote:Fred wrote:Having worked in a hospital from an I.T. perspective, and seeing the trail of costs within software, I am surprised an aspirin in a hospital only cost $12.
Yeah, it should cost $100... the time to locate the bottle ($2), the time to lift it off the shelf ($2), the time to unscrew the cap ($2), the time to turn the bottle upside down ($2), the time for the pill to fall out into the hand ($2), the pill might fall onto the flour so you have to account for that ($2), then you have to screw the cap back on ($2), put the bottle down ($2), make sure it is secure in it's place and doesn't fall ($2), then turn around and walk ($5), open a few doors on your way ($5), bla bla bla, I could go on and on with all the micro steps... when you think of all that, it should probably cost $200.
Great example of what is wrong with the system... micro management, bureaucracy, and waste... figuring out every little thing that needs to be done so that costs can be increased to make more $$$. Do you think they do things like this in other countries? Maybe that's part of the reason why costs are so much more here than elsewhere.
josh wrote:You are right - "bureaucracy, and waste" are two things the ALWAYS go away whenever the government is in charge.
Lantana07 wrote:Al, it's pretty apparent you don't understand how healthcare works and how it's about as efficient in our country as you can get. Expensive? For some, yes. But it works.
Lantana07 wrote:Explain how our system will be better if the government manages this process.
Lantana07 wrote:And explain how the government will pay for this little adventure of free healthcare.
Lantana07 wrote:Explain how a college kid would be incentivized to go to medical school and incur the massive debt to be a doctor is he can't make it up later.
Lantana07 wrote:There is already a growing shortage of physicians (there is a massive shortage of radiologists everywhere and family docs outside metro areas, for example), this would just make it worse.
When you choose a health plan, you typically check the panel of doctors it pays for. Now you need to check which hospitals and diagnostic facilities it covers too. And keep in mind, the list can change at any time. The unfairness of this bait-and-switch game â€” to both patients and doctors â€” is pretty nasty. The hospitals and facilities you signed up for originally might suddenly be replaced by facilities that are â€” you guessed it â€” cheaper. While your premium (and the CEO's bonus) goes up, the dollar value of what you're getting â€” i.e., what the company will pay your hospital or doctor for their services â€” goes down.
josh wrote:An example of the type of government efficiency that will result if Dems get their way:
admin wrote:From Rep. Michael C. Burgess:
Earlier this week, Speaker Pelosi and House Democrats...
...taking the decision-making powers away from patients like you and doctors like me and putting it in the hands of government bureaucrats.
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