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Postby Common Sense Al » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:49 pm

nyuce wrote:Still, games. Simple enough question though.


And already answered.
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Postby josh » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:04 am

Al wrote:
nyuce wrote:Still, games. Simple enough question though.


And already answered.


nyuce is trolling for a fight. I think she knows exactly what your views are.

nyuce - what is your point? Care to express your views on the matter or your views on abortion?
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Postby josh » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:30 am

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Postby Common Sense Al » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:34 am

josh wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/18/north-dakota-house-gives-fertilized-eggs-human-status/
It will be interesting to see how far this challenge makes it.


That's great!

The author of the bill, Rep. Dan Sullivan, R-Tulsa, said it is designed to stop couples from using the gender of a fetus as a reason to get an abortion. Sullivan said a doctor would be prohibited from performing an abortion if the mother specifically said the fetus' sex was the reason.


Wow... it's amazing (and very sad) to me that some people abort children because they want a different sex. :shock: :cry:
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Postby nyuce » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:14 pm

josh wrote:
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nyuce wrote:Still, games. Simple enough question though.


And already answered.


nyuce is trolling for a fight. I think she knows exactly what your views are.

nyuce - what is your point? Care to express your views on the matter or your views on abortion?


Still answering with a question!!!

Asked a simple question, I am not interested in what the Church says. I would like to know what is your stand period.

As to fight, why would you think that?
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Postby nyuce » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:17 pm

Al wrote:
josh wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/18/north-dakota-house-gives-fertilized-eggs-human-status/
It will be interesting to see how far this challenge makes it.


That's great!

The author of the bill, Rep. Dan Sullivan, R-Tulsa, said it is designed to stop couples from using the gender of a fetus as a reason to get an abortion. Sullivan said a doctor would be prohibited from performing an abortion if the mother specifically said the fetus' sex was the reason.


Wow... it's amazing (and very sad) to me that some people abort children because they want a different sex. :shock: :cry:


I agree.
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Postby Common Sense Al » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:23 pm

nyuce wrote:Asked a simple question, I am not interested in what the Church says. I would like to know what is your stand period.


If you don't know where I stand now, after I have answered this already, then there's no point in continually repeating it. :roll:

If you really want to know where I stand, then look at the previous posts where it has been answered instead of continuing to ask the same question.

Plus it would be nice if you would answer the questions posed to you.

If you won't do the above, then I don't see the point in trying to converse. I agree with josh that you are trolling.
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Postby nyuce » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:40 pm

Al wrote:
nyuce wrote:Asked a simple question, I am not interested in what the Church says. I would like to know what is your stand period.


If you don't know where I stand now, after I have answered this already, then there's no point in continually repeating it. :roll:

Nyuce: Ha ha... We already know your stand on abortion but you keep bringing up, repating again and again. So what is the difference?

If you really want to know where I stand, then look at the previous posts where it has been answered instead of continuing to ask the same question.

Nyuce: Give me a break! Instead of fishing out your stand on these particular issues amongst some other, wouldn't it be easier to give one sentence answer on each issue. Humor me.

Plus it would be nice if you would answer the questions posed to you.

nyuce: You go first.

If you won't do the above, then I don't see the point in trying to converse. I agree with josh that you are trolling.

nyuce: I don't see any conversation point in any abortion sermons you keep bringing but you do it anyway.

Gosh, I didn't realize my questions were that hard! As to trolling, nah, that is your escape route.

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Postby josh » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:45 pm

nyuce wrote:
Al wrote:
nyuce wrote:Asked a simple question, I am not interested in what the Church says. I would like to know what is your stand period.


If you don't know where I stand now, after I have answered this already, then there's no point in continually repeating it. :roll:

Nyuce: Ha ha... We already know your stand on abortion but you keep bringing up, repating again and again. So what is the difference?

If you really want to know where I stand, then look at the previous posts where it has been answered instead of continuing to ask the same question.

Nyuce: Give me a break! Instead of fishing out your stand on these particular issues amongst some other, wouldn't it be easier to give one sentence answer on each issue. Humor me.

Plus it would be nice if you would answer the questions posed to you.

nyuce: You go first.

If you won't do the above, then I don't see the point in trying to converse. I agree with josh that you are trolling.

nyuce: I don't see any conversation point in any abortion sermons you keep bringing but you do it anyway.

Gosh, I didn't realize my questions were that hard! As to trolling, nah, that is your escape route.



You just told Al you dont see any point in his "sermons on abortion" and in the same sentence demand he give you a sermon on abortion (i.e. his point of view). Contradiction?
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Postby matj6876 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:21 pm

North Dakota House wrote:The bill declares that "any organism with the genome of homo sapiens" is a person protected by rights granted by the North Dakota Constitution and state laws.


Interesting indeed! In line with the main discussion of this thread the Bill seems to be trying to do exactly what we are (were?) discussing. Dan Ruby says; "This is very simply defining when life begins, and giving that life some protections under our Constitution — the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

I don't agree with his definition but applaud his efforts and the sentiments behind the bill if not his reasoning for doing it. I would hope that critics of the Bill's detalis (myself included) could come up with an alternative definition as a response and not just the usual "pro-choice" arguments.
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Postby nyuce » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:47 pm

josh wrote:

You just told Al you dont see any point in his "sermons on abortion" and in the same sentence demand he give you a sermon on abortion (i.e. his point of view). Contradiction?


If he doesn't care about my not seeing any point and continues giving sermons on abortions anyway, what is wrong with answering a couple simple questions? As far as I am concerned, I still don't know Al's PERSONAL opinion on:
- premarital sex
- sex education at grade school
- availability of birth control methods
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Postby nyuce » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:48 pm

Oh, add one more:

- tube babies
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Postby Common Sense Al » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:20 pm

nyuce wrote:As far as I am concerned, I still don't know Al's PERSONAL opinion on: ...


Probably best that you don't know anyway. :lol:

And if you haven't figured some of it by now, I don't think you'll understand my answers for 500th time if you didn't understand them for the first 499 times.

And again, I don't believe you want to know for any beneficial reason... but convince me otherwise and maybe I will try again to have an interesting and hopefully worthwhile discussion.
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Postby nyuce » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:54 am

so he uses his escape route.
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Postby Common Sense Al » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:09 am

nyuce wrote:so he uses his escape route.


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More like a tunnel than a route though.
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