Lantana07 wrote:Wow...that comment about scripture not being the only source of divine truth is a bit frightening. What, from God, is the other source? And why doesn't the rest of the non-catholic world have any idea what God's other books are? Not trying to be a smart-a**...
Al wrote:Lantana07 wrote:Wow...that comment about scripture not being the only source of divine truth is a bit frightening. What, from God, is the other source? And why doesn't the rest of the non-catholic world have any idea what God's other books are? Not trying to be a smart-a**...
The other source would be from the authority of the church (not churches) that Jesus established.
josh wrote:You cannot win an argument on theology with a Catholic because it ALWAYS comes back to the Catholic Church having the final say on everything.
Lantana07 wrote:But to the extent that over the years the catholic leadership has decided that Mary was sinless (with no historical or Biblical validity); that you must take sacraments as part of salvation (again, with no historical or Biblical validity); that a priest is required for forgiveness of sins (again, with no historical or Biblical validity); and that there are other means to heaven outside of Christ (again, with no historical or Biblical validity) makes it less a religion based on the New Testament of Christ and more one based on what guys post-reformation wanted to have people do as a means of control.
Lantana07 wrote:"By grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God: not of works lest any man should boast" (Eph. 2:8-9)...unless you're catholic.
Not everyone who says to me "Lord, Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. (Mat 7:20)
What good is it, my brothers if you have faith but do not have works? Can faith save you. If a brother is naked and lacks daily food. If one of you says to them, 'Go in peace, keep warm and eat your fill', and yet you do not supply their bodily needs, what is the good of that? So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead. (James 2:14-16)
Matt: 19:21 Then someone came to him and said "Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life...[Jesus said] go sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven...When the young man heard this word he went away grieving, for he had many possessions...
Mat 25:40-43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.' 44 Then they also will answer, "Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?' 45 Then he will answer them, "Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.' 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
2 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive good or evil, according to what he has done in the body.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, the book of life. And the dead were judged according to their works, as recorded in the books. 13 And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and all were judged according to what they had done.
Lk 19:6 "So he (Zacchaeus) hurried down and was happy to welcome him (Jesus) ... 8 Zachaeus stood there and said to the Lord "Look, half of my possessions, Lord, I will give to the poor; and if I have defrauded anyone of anything, I will pay back four times as much." 9 Then Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house"
1 Cor 9:16 "Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel"
Jer. 17:10; 32:19 God will evaluate every man according to his deeds.
Now then skiing.... I don't have a dog (or should that be god) in this race either... but you've gotta admire the dedication here. I'm stunned by the differences between folks who all look up to the same Big Man - keep educating me on why this matters guys!skiing1974 wrote:yawn...
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