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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby JKTex » Tue May 29, 2012 3:07 pm

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Uther wrote:Please tell me why a HOA would object to reflective numbers on the curb?


Unnecessary & doesn't look good.


I'll go with that. We've got them all over and if they're kept up they look OK, but they're never kept original or don't once and never again and some people get vanity numbering vs uniform numbers. Who wants college colors and mascots on the curbs in bright colors? Or faded paint spots where numbers used to be. Or black on white next door to white on black and in different fonts and sizes.
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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby Common Sense Al » Tue May 29, 2012 3:11 pm

JKTex wrote:I'll go with that. We've got them all over and if they're kept up they look OK, but they're never kept original or don't once and never again and some people get vanity numbering vs uniform numbers. Who wants college colors and mascots on the curbs in bright colors? Or faded paint spots where numbers used to be. Or black on white next door to white on black and in different fonts and sizes.


Yes, well stated why they don't look good - inconsistency & not uniformly maintained.

In Lantana, there are house numbers on the mailboxes and houses.... no need for it on the street too... just more unnecessary stuff that detracts rather than adds.
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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby jlbates » Tue May 29, 2012 3:19 pm

Common Sense Al wrote:
Uther wrote:Please tell me why a HOA would object to reflective numbers on the curb?


Unnecessary & doesn't look good.


That's all well and good, but personally I think all of the street parking we have to contend with looks worse, and is more of a pain, than house numbers on the curb. I'm tired of selective enforcement of HOA regs. And no, I'm not going to document the duration and location of street parkers in my neighborhood. That's not my responsbility. If someone can get paid to check for fence stain, tree limb height and trash cans on the street, they can take note of this too.
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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby Uther » Tue May 29, 2012 3:20 pm

Common Sense Al wrote:Unnecessary & doesn't look good.


Wow. So now some entity is the arbiter of what is necessary or not?

You seem to be willing to delegate responsibility over decision-making processes away from the individual to some entity that is not even democratically elected? You live in the wrong country.
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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby Common Sense Al » Tue May 29, 2012 3:24 pm

Uther wrote:Wow. So now some entity is the arbiter of what is necessary or not?

You seem to be willing to delegate responsibility over decision-making processes away from the individual to some entity that is not even democratically elected? You live in the wrong country.


What are you talking about? You simply asked why an HOA would be against it and I answered why.

It doesn't mean all those other things you said. It doesn't mean I bow down to and worship HOA's and enjoy other people making all the decisions for me. :lol:
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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby Uther » Tue May 29, 2012 3:25 pm

JKTex wrote: Who wants college colors and mascots on the curbs in bright colors?


Puhleeze. So where do you draw the line on college colors? What about an individual's right to express themselves as they see fit? next you'll be wanting to regulate what people can wear when they shop at Wal*Mart? Or whether they can fly a flag for their favorite team?

And yes, I know there are limits, since you have to wear clothes to shop, but your statement seems to want to reduce personal freedom, not something I'd have expected from you.
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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby Uther » Tue May 29, 2012 3:26 pm

Common Sense Al wrote: It doesn't mean I bow down to and worship HOA's. :lol:


Methinks it does.
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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby josh » Tue May 29, 2012 3:41 pm

We signed away those rights when we moved here.
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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby Uther » Tue May 29, 2012 4:03 pm

josh wrote:We signed away those rights when we moved here.
You seem to be a thorough and rational person. So tell me. Did you read the entire HOA agreement before you purchased? Did you know (prior to purchase) that it proscribes the color of basketball backboards depending on neighborhood you live in, the use of reflective paint on the curb, the mulch you may use in your front flower garden, and other trivial issues such as that?

Or is it that you just hit the "high notes" and decided that it would be good to live in the lovely "Hill Country atmosphere" regardless and that you'd just take the fact that you would not be allowed to make trivial choices? Hope your pot of lentils tastes great! :)

Did you know that you would not be allowed to vote in HOA elections for an indefinite period? How does that go down for you, or do you think that's "too much democracy" to vote in the HOA? Might there then be consideration where you would abdicate your right to vote in other local, state or federal governments?

Small beginnings. Wonder what dear CCR would say about this? :D
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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby JKTex » Tue May 29, 2012 5:08 pm

Uther wrote:
JKTex wrote: Who wants college colors and mascots on the curbs in bright colors?


Puhleeze. So where do you draw the line on college colors? What about an individual's right to express themselves as they see fit? next you'll be wanting to regulate what people can wear when they shop at Wal*Mart? Or whether they can fly a flag for their favorite team?

And yes, I know there are limits, since you have to wear clothes to shop, but your statement seems to want to reduce personal freedom, not something I'd have expected from you.


Curbs aren't personal property for us to use as we wish, although I doubt there are many ordinances that prohibit painting them. They're part of a municipal easement and roadway, just as the sidewalks, that separate our personal property from the easement, are public right of ways. Sometimes people forget, property lines end at the sidewalk, although we're responsible for the sidewalk and easement that abut our property.
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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby Hog Caller » Tue May 29, 2012 5:30 pm

jlbates wrote:
Common Sense Al wrote:
Uther wrote:Please tell me why a HOA would object to reflective numbers on the curb?


That's all well and good, but personally I think all of the street parking we have to contend with looks worse, and is more of a pain, than house numbers on the curb. I'm tired of selective enforcement of HOA regs. And no, I'm not going to document the duration and location of street parkers in my neighborhood. That's not my responsbility. If someone can get paid to check for fence stain, tree limb height and trash cans on the street, they can take note of this too.

Unnecessary & doesn't look good.

You're absolutely right! It is virtually impossible to get the HOA to do anything for an individual resident. They will represent the residents collectively if the grievance is self-evident to all and the uproar from the community is likely to make the news. Then the HOA will step in and try to correct the infraction. Otherwise, they will only interject themselves into a problem at the request of the developer. The most action I have ever seen them take is to write a courtesy letter to the offending party telling them that someone is upset about what they have been doing. But, if it is possible to get them to do that you will had to do weeks of documentation, go through a go-nowhere, back and forth, emailing process, and have gone in to talk to him personally a couple of times. That's our HOA.
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Re: The Lantana HOA

Postby Brian » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:14 am

Common Sense Al wrote:
Uther wrote:Please tell me why a HOA would object to reflective numbers on the curb?


Unnecessary & doesn't look good.


Ditto that.
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